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Title: Win7 Pro
Post by: vanjast on April 11, 2012, 06:40:50 AM
Mann!! am I having an irritating time with Win7.. :eek

My pc's were on, laptop and desktop with XP, my new toy on Win7... and the power utility goes phutt!!.
Work out that our bread toaster is now 'earthing'.. so time to restart PCs

Laptops fine as it has battery 'backup', and desktop starts np. But sh1t ..  win7 has now just 'climbed down a dark hole'.. cannot boot... nothing  :tdown
Try safe modes, backups, repairs and restore points...zippo.. GREAT!!! - I wonder why they bother with such things?
.. and then a link to microsoft help desk  :dazzled: :boohoo: :clap:

One thing at least worked from the install disk was the command line interpreter, and I could xcopy all my important stuff to my USB drive.
Good ole DOS.. I wonder if they'll ever get rid of it... I'll advise not too. :wink

A good disk format and install later and I'm good to go... except.. Now I want to minimise my system and services..you know the 'CONTROL' thingy..
Pop along into the services controller and then I discover that there's such a web of service dependencies, that when you disable one service that looks irrelevant.. it bombs something else..Arrrgghhhh!!! XP is so simple.

Question... is there a Win7 Pro service dependency listing somewhere - something like a diagram that I can print.
I suppose I could work it out from the Services thing but this would be a last resort.  :bg
:wink
Title: Re: Win7 Pro
Post by: baltoro on April 11, 2012, 05:41:19 PM
I've always wondered why Microsoft doesn't write a number of internal state monitoring programs that users can use to determine when the operating system is unstable, or has a number of references to mysterious COM-like object dependencies that cause weird crashes or data corruption when the die without warning,...that just annoys the hell out of you. Reading crash dump reports (http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ee416349(v=vs.85).aspx) is way too complicated for the average human.
Title: Re: Win7 Pro
Post by: vanjast on April 12, 2012, 05:33:54 AM
After looking around I found this site http://www.blackviper.com/service-configurations/black-vipers-windows-7-service-pack-1-service-configurations/

Requires a bit of reading to work it out... so I'll be busy..
:8)
Title: Re: Win7 Pro
Post by: zemtex on April 12, 2012, 05:57:57 AM
Robocopy is a good thing.
Title: Re: Win7 Pro
Post by: vanjast on April 12, 2012, 06:39:13 PM
Quote from: zemtex on April 12, 2012, 05:57:57 AM
Robocopy is a good thing.
Didn't know about that... see an 'young' dog can always learn new tricks.  :green2

I'll hang onto this as I don't want to copy all the acl's and things as I throw my files around 'willy nilly' between 3 computers
Thanks
Title: Re: Win7 Pro
Post by: zemtex on April 12, 2012, 07:20:54 PM
IF you use system recovery you can fix many problems, but beware that it will also remove executables and dll's. So don't be surprised if you find that your masm programs are gone afterwards, your source code will be there but exe and dll's will probably be gone.
Use sfc.exe to verify system files, use sfc.exe /scannow to repair system files. When that is done you can also reset and reinstall tcp/ip by doing "netsh int ip reset"

That should be a good start.

Btw, Robocopy is more complex and robust than xcopy, it is designed to copy files that are normally hard to copy. Robocopy is an alias for Robust copy. It is an excellent tool for making advanced and customized backups of system files, and it never fails, it keeps retrying for months to finish a copy, even if you restart your computer it can continue where you left it.
Title: Re: Win7 Pro
Post by: dedndave on April 12, 2012, 07:26:08 PM
nah - they pinched the name from the movie   :bg
Title: Re: Win7 Pro
Post by: zemtex on April 12, 2012, 07:37:23 PM
http://youtu.be/cPNo3WLaWP4

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Title: Re: Win7 Pro
Post by: vanjast on April 12, 2012, 08:36:07 PM
Quote from: zemtex on April 12, 2012, 07:20:54 PM
.. it keeps retrying for months to finish a copy..
That might be a problem on it own... not knowing when to give up
Probably a 'stubborn old git'.. Hmmm!!!  now where have I seen that before ?? :bg
Only joking  :wink

Thanks.. I'll look into more before I use it  :U